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  • #269

    Alex Feldman
    Keymaster

    This forum is dedicated to discussion of the building’s design. A discussion group around this topic was held at the project’s first community meeting on May 20, 2013. The discussion group was comprised of neighbors and other community members. Major takeaways from this discussion include:

    - The building should have strong pedestrian appeal and be sensitive to Clark Park
    - The architects should consider public space that would help connect the building to Clark Park
    - Retail should be concentrated near the corner of 43rd and Baltimore
    - The tallest part of the building should be away from Clark Park on the eastern end of the site
    - Parking and service should be concentrated along the back and should not compete with activity on the street
    - 50-60 parking spaces should be considered
    - The architects must consider Mill Creek running under 43rd Street
    - The neighborhood would like the site to maintain its green character with the realization that aging or dead trees would need to be replaced

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    1. #451

      Toby
      Participant

      Some questions about most recent design proposal:

      “Juliet” balcony windows for condos. This wasn’t explained.

      There was mention of perhaps some common space with a roof deck, but not much detail. Is there possibility of some “green” roof area to offset runoff and reduce water costs for the complex?

      Is geothermal an option for keeping heating/cooling costs contained?

      Any chance of locating some solar panels so that, for example, one of the retail spaces is self-sufficient? Or to produce enough electricity to power residents’ computers & devices?

      Residents might also like an option to rent storage space if units don’t provide enough.

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    2. #416

      charlie013
      Participant

      Same here i am totally agree about the conclusion which reminds me of the country in Finland where there is arkkitehtisuunnittelu or architectural design and everything is in there like this and it is amazing cause people need those kind of stuff in a place.

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    3. #369

      cartwright21
      Participant

      Hello everyone i am new here i am Melvin and good to be part of it.I notice that the idea of building design was really perfect.

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    4. #337

      cazort
      Participant

      I really agree about the conclusions of maintaining the site’s green character. I actually think an open space component would be beneficial to this property and the neighborhood. I don’t agree that “any kind of plaza seems like an inevitable failure”.

      I think even modest amounts of open space, like flower beds, trees, possibly even a small area left semi-wild, would beautify the neighborhood and create value for everyone.

      I think this city block already has more paved and concrete surfaces than I’d like. Because this project is going to build on and close in another unpaved area, I think it would be good to preserve as much green space as possible. This means not paving / building over the whole space, but leaving at least some of it as ground for trees or flower beds. As far as I’m concerned, the more the better. I would personally be happy if the entire space were left as additional park space and greenspace, but I understand that there is high demand for housing here and I think development could be a good thing too. But I still want significant green space to be preserved.

      People don’t always realize how much green space and wild area affects a neighborhood, but it can be big. It effects quality of life in many ways: it affects the air quality, the temperature (and thus heating and cooling costs of surrounding buildings), and it affects the soundscape. Currently, birds like Carolina wren, Cardinals, and other species of songbirds breed on this property. If you build out the whole space, the only birds left will be house sparrows, starlings, and pigeons. These things may be subtle, but they even have financial benefits like affecting the value of surrounding properties.

      Not to mention that increased unpaved area also reduces runoff, which lessens the load on the city’s storm sewer system.

      There are so many hidden costs to building in / paving over areas, and so many hidden benefits to keeping open space…I want us to consider the costs / benefits carefully.

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    5. #321

      Warrington2010
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      I think the last thing the building needs is its own open space component. Why compete with Clark Park across the street? Building any kind of plaza seems like an inevitable failure. That said, I do think that setting the building back to allow for a wider sidewalk than what currently exists could be a very wise move. With enough width, the sidewalk in front of the building could accommodate the farmers’ market vendors that use the street now, and/or outdoor seating for any restaurant uses.

      If parking is a necessary component, then I think the lesser of two evils is a curbcut on 43rd rather than Baltimore. I hate to put one on the park, but a bigger problem is putting one in the way of trolley service which is quite frequent at some hours and prone to interruptions from cars making various maneuvers. I’m not sure how a 43rd street ingress/egress for parking would work in terms of wanting the parking in the back, but assuming you could make the grade change work, I think it’s the way to go.

      As for retail, I think a range of uses and sizes could work here. Not sure how large a footprint you can create, but is this not an amazing location for a small-sized grocer (like something between 5k and 15k SF?…ahem, trader joe’s)? Otherwise, I think the corner is the most important for maintaining a retail presence, and then along the 43rd street side is the most logical extension, rather than along Baltimore which has a residential character there.

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      • #323

        bowersad
        Participant

        So your solution to a building with 91 units and 6 parking spaces is a curb cut? What like that gains like 3 more spaces or something from the ones already on 43rd street?

        But wait, you aren’t done there. On top of that you want to put a large grocery store there too? The size of the lot itself is smaller then the parking lot for the center city location of traders joes, but no problem at all, right?

        That is an awful proposal. There is already 3 grocery stores of that size with 5, 8 and 10 blocks respectively, and 2 smaller stores each only 2 blocks away. 2 of those large grocery stores again have more space dedicated to parking then the size of this lot. And you want to put this right next to the park!

        Your ideas are not thought out at all, Warrington2010.

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